Utter Contempt Absolute Subjection
Harry Kibler was one of many, many people at the hearing re: H3101 Wednesday. Below is his take from his RINO Hunt page:
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Utter contempt would be an appropriate description of the way citizens were treated today by the members of the South Carolina House Sub-committee on Constitutional Laws. As the public hearing on House bill 3101 began the chamber was filled to capacity by citizens in support of the legislation aimed at blocking the implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
The first speaker to testify was Thomas P. Crocker, a professor from South Carolina School of Law. Once he finished listing his degrees and legal pedigree, he warmed up the Sub-committee members with numerous studies of Supreme Court case law rulings and an inventive description of the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution. The Sub-Committee appeared to be captivated by the professor’s intellectual prowess. The members of the committee were so impressed with the testimony that they asked Professor Crocker numerous questions which lead to even more case law studies and the affirmation of the domination by the federal government and the absolute submission by the State.
Once Professor Crocker’s testimony was completed and questions from the committee were answered, the uneducated and simple citizens were called to testify before the committee. The first speaker in favor of H-3101 was Dr. Donald Livingston, a professor of philosophy at Emory University. Mr. Livingston received his doctorate at Washington University in 1965, which may have been before Professor Crocker was born. Dr. Livingston also received numerous questions from the committee. Representative James Smith seemed fixated on Dr. Livingston’s association with the Abbeville Institute; and the controversial teachings of the importance of private property, place, piety, humility, manners, classical liberal studies, rhetoric, and the importance of a human scale to political order. Once Dr. Livingston was exposed as a racist for his belief in private property and manners, his testimony concluded.
Dr. Thomas Kendall, a General Physician in South Carolina and the President Elect of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons also testified before the committee on the impact the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is already having on medical doctors. During Dr. Kendal’s testimony he discussed how a doctor has been convicted of the crime of miss-coding an insurance claim and is now serving time in jail for the violation of federal law. Dr. Kendall also shared his concern over the demise of the doctor – patient relationship and gave an example of a Chief Heart Surgeon in the audience that had recently resigned his position with a large hospital in South Carolina because of increased regulation. However, the questions Dr. Kendall received from the committee seemed focused on his integrity by asking him how the PPA is affecting his income. By questioning Dr. Kendall’s motive in supporting H-3101 it appeared the committee thought the doctor was more concerned about the financial impact to his practice than he was about the patient’s wellbeing. This line of questioning was absurd considering various hospital and medical associations gave nearly $250,000.00 to South Carolina House members last year and treated them to lunch yesterday before a hearing dealing with the financial impact of Mediacaid expansion.
As other citizens testified before the committee it became obvious the committee members were simply going through the motions of conducting a public hearing. The level of contempt for citizen participation in the legislative process was sickening. Several committee members stated they must uphold their oath of office to defend the constitution but fell short of understanding that upholding their oath of office is exactly what we are asking them to do.
After nearly three hours of testimony the Chairman closed the hearing in order to allow committee members to reach the House floor in time for the session to begin. The Chairman stated that many people that had signed up to speak did not have an opportunity to do so and he would schedule another hearing to receive additional testimony. Hopefully citizens will be treated with less hostility and greater respect during future committee meetings.
The Supremacy Clause does not state that all laws created by congress are the supreme law of the United Sates. The Supremacy Clause states that all laws created in pursuance to the constitution will be the supreme law of the United States. Therefore, if an act is created outside of the pursuance of the constitution, it has no authority because it is not in pursuance to the constitution. This is the heart of H-3101; the PPA is outside the authority of the powers granted by the States to Congress. Therefore, the PPA is unconstitutional and unenforceable in South Carolina.
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act was sold to the American people by making the case that our healthcare system was broken when in fact, our healthcare system is the best in the world. Affordability of healthcare is the problem.
Over the last 20 years, our State Legislature has protected health insurance companies by monopolizing health insurance in South Carolina and eliminating competition. They have also protected the attorneys in South Carolina by refusing to consider serious tort reform thereby allowing attorneys to file frivolous lawsuits which drive up the cost of healthcare. They also failed to adequately deal with the issue of illegal immigration in our state thereby protecting the hospitality and other industries that benefit from lower wage positions; all the while knowing those here illegally seek medical care at the point of greatest expense, the hospitals. Each of these entities have powerful lobbyist that not only pressure legislators they also give money to legislators through various associations.
So we now have the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which will destroy our economy, jobs and personal freedom. Our legislators have surrendered our last hope of protection by erroneously quoting the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution when in fact they could turn to the Tenth Amendment for the power to protect. They have protected insurance companies, attorneys and special interest groups as well as those here illegally. But they are telling us they cannot protect the citizens of South Carolina because our state is constitutionally bound to be in absolute subjection to the federal government. Come on people…we know better than that. When legislators listen to lobbyist more than citizens and receive thousands of dollars from Political Action Committees and Associations; citizens lose every time.
In a state where legislators have painted the Obama administration as the boogie man, it appears most legislators are afraid to pull off the covers protecting them and face their fear. Or, maybe they fear the lobbyist more than they fear the Obama Administration.
Harry Kibler
Founder – RINO Hunt
February 7, 2013
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7 Responses
Cibby Krell - February 7, 2013
Obviously it’s even worse than I thought: Our representatives have become our rulers. At least in their own minds.
I’m hoping and praying that there are folks who are smarter than I and know how to go about unseating virtually every incumbent in Columbia. I believe some of these arrogant clowns are now eligible for recall or impeachment.
Please tell me how I can help get this ball rolling!
Mike Vasovski - February 7, 2013
The last sentence says it all. They fear the health care lobbyist more.
Gene E Nowak - February 7, 2013
Only those that have contributed their “tithes” faithfully were allowed to testify if I read this post correctly. Granted they are not called tithes, but campaign contributions. Also you must have been indoctrinated at an approved school if liberal speakthink to be creditable. They trained to speak and then may start to think, by then the damage is not repairable.
Voice from The Resistance - February 7, 2013
We have three kinds of Republicans elected in this state in the legislature and county governments as here in Spartanburg, conservatives (few), idiots on the take, and socialist helpers on the take.
If your not a conservative Republican then you are a socialist Republican, a disgrace to the Party and to conservative principles.
These tyrannist are socialist collaborators and traitors to the people and to the Constitution.
That the founders would tar and feather and run out of town on a rail.
” In every stage of these Opressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury.”
It is time to get serious!
Voice from The Resistance - February 7, 2013
We have three kinds of Republicans elected in this state in the legislature and county governments as here in Spartanburg, conservatives (few), idiots on the take, and socialist helpers on the take.
If your not a conservative Republican then you are a socialist Republican, a disgrace to the Party and to conservative principles.
These tyrannist are socialist collaborators and traitors to the people and to the Constitution.
That the founders would tar and feather and run out of town on a rail.
” In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury.”
It is time to get serious!
Ann Grimes - February 8, 2013
I am from the Charleston area and was at that Subcommittee hearing on Wednesday. Seems to me those “lawyers” who sat at the front of the room were running scared. Not from us, but, from some unseen force. I do not agree with their watered-down version which Delleney touted as the more cautious approach. His application of jurisprudence was far too familiar with those practices and theories that got us in trouble in the first place. Those guys have been in the practice of law for so long that they have been conditioned to favor the theory of legal realism which is the practice of law that places legislators, judges, executive branches as the ultimate Law; and, have lost sight of Natural Law; which by the way, is the foundation upon which the ultimate Law of Land was penned by our founders.
They have removed themselves so much from that foundation; have immersed themselves so deeply into legal realism, that they have placed distance between themselves and the laypeople of this State. We, indeed, as laypeople have not been “conditioned” and continue to cling to the original jurisprudence of the Constitution. We are untainted, have and can see the truth very clearly because we have not been “conditioned”. We also understand the moral authority upon which Natural Law is based…and that is God’s Laws which dictate fundamental moral authority…and which is most assuredly the Law within our Constitution. The more I hear about their arguments of the Nullification Bill being unconstitutional, the more firmly I believe that they can’t hear us because they are so deeply conditioned. And, to agree with us, is straying from those standards upon which many of them have placed their livelihood as lawyers and even as lawmakers. I stand planted in the knowledge that we must impress upon them that their conditioned thinking must change…and that they must reframe their way of thinking. They must be made to understand that we are strongly requiring them to revert back to the practice of Natural Law which so obviously has been overshadowed for the past 100 years. If not, we shall surely replace them with individuals who are not tainted by the pervasive practice of “legal realism.”
But, I don’t think that intimidates them. I think they are intimidated by those underlying and unseen forces such as their lobbyists, their own pocketbooks, their little piece of power, and/or the fear of reprisals from an over-reaching Federal Gov’t. I challenge them very strongly to be more fearful of the end results should Obamacare not be stopped in it’s tracks—it’s evil tentacles will not be selective—for they and their families will also be required to submit to the tyranny of it.
Gene E Nowak - February 8, 2013
This quote from Ann Grimes post point ou the real problem facing us.
“They must be made to understand that we are strongly requiring them to revert back to the practice of Natural Law which so obviously has been overshadowed for the past 100 years. If not, we shall surely replace them with individuals who are not tainted by the pervasive practice of “legal realism.”
Many of them are not only tainted, but are driven by their pervasive practice of “legal realism”. Only they have any power and knowledge of what we need to “protect” us from our selves.
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